Psychological backrgound for self sucking

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Psychological backrgound for self sucking

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I’m a former self sucker who has been into therapy for over a year (for many reasons), but my fetish for self-sucking has become a recurrent topic. And it got me wondering: Theory says all fantasies and perversions (mainly, sexual) have a psychological background which I guess all (or at least, most) of us share, despite we’re gay or straight, performers or fans, vouyerists or exhibitionists...

Which one do you think that is, guys? Any thoughts or professional who may provide his insight? Any of you have read or found any (serious) literature on the topic? Would be interesting to know, huh??

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There have been a number of studies published in medical journals decades ago. I found them when I was in college and had access to one of the largest libraries in the country. All the ones I read, published in the 1940's-1960's treated autofellatio as an extreme sexual perversion and associated it with mental illness. It was a bit alarming. I think if someone were to do a study like that today they'd likely have a different view of it.

They had also noted how rare the act is but with the advent of the internet we now know there are a lot of guys who practice this, far more than the 2 or 3 in 1,000 Kinsey had estimated.

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What got me really into this was when I attempted nofap. So usually when I'm horny I just watch some porn and be done with it, but when I'm so deprived of an outlet, I started to lose my mind (at around day 20), I started wiping the "lubricant" thing and licking it, doing yoga poses, looking at transgender surgery lmao.
I think if I had a girlfriend starting from HS, or if I was never shamed for watching normal porn, I wouldn't never came down this route.

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I'm not sure if my case would be consider psychological background.
I'm gay, I like penis. I want to suck on penis. I had no other penis to suck on so I try sucking my own.....
That's basically how I got started. I don't think there's any perversion involve other than being gay, which I would not consider a perversion but at one point it was considered psychological disorder.

That said I think our society has a lot of hang up about sex and label anything that isn't 'normal' a psychological disorder.
As long as people are not doing it to the detriment of their health I don't think there's anything wrong with it and if they do it to the extreme to the detriment of their health I think it's more of an obsessiveness that is fixate on this one act and not the act itself being problematic.
I'm not a trained professional so that's just my layperson 2c

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I think some psychologist would classify it as an oral fetish from some early stage of childhood development. I guess that makes sense for why anyone gets fixated on oral sex but theres got to be a difference between wanting to suck a penis and wanting to suck my own penis. I also love to suck dick but I really want to suck my own dick and sucking my own dick is very different for me than sucking someone elses. Sucking another dick is great, but sucking my own is obsessive for me.

I've been able to suck my own dick since I was very young, long before I could ejaculate. I'd lick and suck my head. Once I could cum, I'd suck my dick to masturbate, but I also just wanted my dick in my mouth even soft. To cum in my mouth, I had to use my hand and jack off while licking my head. I lived to have my dick near my mouth but also was ashamed the same way I was when I just jerked off.

In my twenties, I remember the first time I sucked myself off with no hands. I was using the x position to get my head in my mouth and could tell I had a lot more in my mouth than usual but the position was hard to stay in. Between short attempts to suck hands free, I'd take breaks but I was so horny I wanted to keep going so while sitting up I leaned forward and suddenly could get about an inch past my head with no hands. I wanted to get back in the x cause I thought I could deep throat--which I'd done before but never been able to cum that way. But I couldnt stop going up and down on my dick and then I started cumming with no hands deep in my mouth. It changed everything. Like jerking off, sex with someone else, and blowjobs from someone else were all fun but this was life changing.

Sometimes I wonder if my obsession means Ive got some psychological problem, but if I'm a pervert I'm definitely not hurting anyone. Sucking my own dick is so important to me and so beautiful that I want to share it with someone but I know most people would think I was disgusting and perverted and probably psychologically damaged.

When I'm thinking rationally I realize my desire to be seen with my dick in my mouth and cumming in my mouth maybe does mean I have some unusual psychosis but when I am making myself cum with my lips and tongue I feel like I'm the real me and want that to be part of me that someone else understands. So I think that this is me in a way that so central to who I am and that this is also maybe crazy. A therapist would have a field day if I ever told them these things.

Anyway. I selfsuck and need to share it. And I also wonder where that need comes from.
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torae wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:13 pm
I'm not sure if my case would be consider psychological background.
I'm gay, I like penis. I want to suck on penis. I had no other penis to suck on so I try sucking my own.....
But wouldn’t that imply that all gay people are into selfsucking and/or all selfsuckers are gay? (When actually neither are true).

Throughout my therapy, I’ve come to conclude selfsucking is not necessarily a ‘perversion’ (my counselor seems to agree with me). It may be ‘unorthodox’, but not necessarily repulsive, although obsessive for some of us. And that’s when this gets interesting (at least for me): What triggered that desire, that interest on sucking our own dick which not necessarily all men share? When did we took a ‘difeerent path’?

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superpretzel wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:59 pm
Throughout my therapy, I’ve come to conclude selfsucking is not necessarily a ‘perversion’ (my counselor seems to agree with me). It may be ‘unorthodox’, but not necessarily repulsive, although obsessive for some of us. And that’s when this gets interesting (at least for me): What triggered that desire, that interest on sucking our own dick which not necessarily all men share? When did we took a ‘difeerent path’?
You've discussed selfsucking with your therapist? (I guess I didn't read your initial post that clearly). That's interesting. I've had sessions with two life coaches and I brought it up but they didn't have much to say about it.

For me, I think I was just a horny teenage boy who became obsessed with his penis. I had seen some contortionists on television and I couldn't help but wonder if the men who did that were able to suck themselves. I think it's safe to say that I'm obsessed with this act. As I haven't been able to completely master it I live vicariously through others. I'm straight but the overwhelming majority of the porn I look at is autofellatio.

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PT1962 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:17 pm
I think some psychologist would classify it as an oral fetish from some early stage of childhood development. I guess that makes sense for why anyone gets fixated on oral sex but theres got to be a difference between wanting to suck a penis and wanting to suck my own penis. I also love to suck dick but I really want to suck my own dick and sucking my own dick is very different for me than sucking someone elses. Sucking another dick is great, but sucking my own is obsessive for me.

I've been able to suck my own dick since I was very young, long before I could ejaculate. I'd lick and suck my head. Once I could cum, I'd suck my dick to masturbate, but I also just wanted my dick in my mouth even soft. To cum in my mouth, I had to use my hand and jack off while licking my head. I lived to have my dick near my mouth but also was ashamed the same way I was when I just jerked off.

In my twenties, I remember the first time I sucked myself off with no hands. I was using the x position to get my head in my mouth and could tell I had a lot more in my mouth than usual but the position was hard to stay in. Between short attempts to suck hands free, I'd take breaks but I was so horny I wanted to keep going so while sitting up I leaned forward and suddenly could get about an inch past my head with no hands. I wanted to get back in the x cause I thought I could deep throat--which I'd done before but never been able to cum that way. But I couldnt stop going up and down on my dick and then I started cumming with no hands deep in my mouth. It changed everything. Like jerking off, sex with someone else, and blowjobs from someone else were all fun but this was life changing.

Sometimes I wonder if my obsession means Ive got some psychological problem, but if I'm a pervert I'm definitely not hurting anyone. Sucking my own dick is so important to me and so beautiful that I want to share it with someone but I know most people would think I was disgusting and perverted and probably psychologically damaged.

When I'm thinking rationally I realize my desire to be seen with my dick in my mouth and cumming in my mouth maybe does mean I have some unusual psychosis but when I am making myself cum with my lips and tongue I feel like I'm the real me and want that to be part of me that someone else understands. So I think that this is me in a way that so central to who I am and that this is also maybe crazy. A therapist would have a field day if I ever told them these things.

Anyway. I selfsuck and need to share it. And I also wonder where that need comes from.
If it was easy to get my penis in my mouth I am sure I would be doing it often, perhaps to the point of doing it instead of other things.I probably have an oral fixation, I definitely like to suck on things. I've experminented with sucking other cocks when I was younger and it just didn't do anything for me, but my own -- that's a major turn-on.

This isn't something I share with most people I know but I've shown a few people and the exhibitionist in me really got off on that. It was all consensual of course.

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superpretzel wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:59 pm
torae wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:13 pm
I'm not sure if my case would be consider psychological background.
I'm gay, I like penis. I want to suck on penis. I had no other penis to suck on so I try sucking my own.....
But wouldn’t that imply that all gay people are into selfsucking and/or all selfsuckers are gay? (When actually neither are true).

Throughout my therapy, I’ve come to conclude selfsucking is not necessarily a ‘perversion’ (my counselor seems to agree with me). It may be ‘unorthodox’, but not necessarily repulsive, although obsessive for some of us. And that’s when this gets interesting (at least for me): What triggered that desire, that interest on sucking our own dick which not necessarily all men share? When did we took a ‘difeerent path’?
Well I'm not trying to make a generalized statement about gay people. I meant it as 'this is what happen to me'.
Also I might be a slightly weirder case than usual because honestly I don't enjoy mouth on my dick that much. I enjoy the penis in my mouth aspect way more than the mouth on my penis aspect.

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not totally sure what you are asking ("which one do you think it is?"), but to provide a counterpoint to torae...i am straight, i like head, nobody else would suck my penis, so i tried sucking it myself.

what it comes down to for me is that i love to orgasm...actually it is all of the build-up before the orgasm i really enjoy, which is why i will edge for hours before cumming sometimes, and sucking my own cock is *soooo* much better than just stroking it!

i started making vids more than 20 years ago for posterity knowing that i wouldn't be able to do it forever, and wanting proof that i once could. when i played back the first 2-3 minutes i ever recorded to make sure the video was coming out OK, it turned me on so much that i came in another 2-3 minutes (yes, my first selfing video was just under 5 minutes start to finish. that is *really* short for me if you don't know from my videos, lol!)

when i figured out how to hide my identity and posted my first few vids i felt it was 'giving back to the community' as i loved SS vids and there weren't very many around back then. not only were there very few SS vids, but many of those were rather mediocre (IMHO) with a few major exceptions. finding one longer than 5 minutes just didn't happen. i kind of felt that my videos filled a missing niche.

i also have a bit of submissiveness that enjoys pleasing others, and when other folks really liked my videos i found that i have some exhibitionist in me that enjoys pleasing others by letting them watch me.

@sunshine when it is easy to get my penis to my mouth, i *do* do it often. could i get more done if i didn't? sure, but i could get more done if i didn't sit down and watch a couple hours of futurama most nights too. many, many guys say "i'd never leave the house!", so i guess i'm not *that* obsessed, but sometimes i fear i might be close.

yeah, i wondered if i would enjoy sucking another guy too, but didn't either. not sure why some folks have such a hard time separating selfing from homosexuality, but i don't find guys attractive...i never look at a guy and think "i wonder what he has in his pants?". i don't have any problem with guys that are in to that...more power to them! it just isn't the way i feel.

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Happy boy... PLEASE tell me you have VIDEO to share from that long ago!

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This response might seem a bit out there, but I am fascinated with the source of desire for self sucking and its psychological aspects. From this thread and a lot of others on this message board, its clear that gay and straight men like to self suck so it doesnt seem to be related to sexual orientation. Some posts talk about it being a sexual thing like really hot and horny masturbation. I do not think of it that way and get really involved with self sucking beyond the way I think about jerking off.

If so many guys come to it for so many different reasons and regardless of sexual orientation, does that mean we all fundamentally share some singular psychosis or does that mean there are as many different psychological reasons for sucking your own dick as their are guys who can do it (and guys who want to but cant)?

But for me it is about my sense of self. Crazy as it may sound when I suck my dick, I feel like I understand myself and I love myself for it in ways Ive never experienced with other sexual acts alone or with other people. I totally think sucking my own dick has psychological effects on me but I really cant figure out what got me to do it in the first place.

I am gay and I'm sure that has something to do with my love for penis but I also dont think of sucking my own dick as related to being gay necessarily. I'm also really not an exhibitionist in any part of my sex life but I love to see myself sucking my dick and want to be seen but not by women. Because I'm not attracted to women but also because I know sucking my own dick is weird for a lot of people and I want to share it with people who understand it too because theyve done it.

I worry that a psychologist would either tell me I suck my own dick because of some Freudian desire for my mother's breast or that this is connected to self-esteem or something like that. I really dont think of myself as hiding some sexual trauma from early childhood that has perverted my otherwise normal sexual development. I also dont want this connected to some sense of emotional problem or lack, even if that might be true. Whatever got me to do it in the first place, it has changed my sense of who I am in ways that Im learning to admit Im happy about.

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So I had my session this week. There were some other things to address, but briefly told my therapist about this post to see if there was any relevant input from others who share this interest; he was interested on listening what I find. As of today, I guess my first conclusion will be 'Hey, so far none of us seem to find a reason, but something is sure: we rather dedicate more time to do it than to understand why got into this in the first place". LOL...

PS - I'm sorry if I didn't apologize in my previous posts for any grammar or spelling mistake, as I'm not an English native speaker. Peace.

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christopherdmaxwell wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:07 am
Happy boy... PLEASE tell me you have VIDEO to share from that long ago!
do i have some from that long ago? yes, but only a few...i didn't have my own camera back then, but borrowed one from a friend once or twice before we got our own a few years later.

ones to share? sorry...that was before i thought about using a tossle cap to cover my face so no on that front. :(

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Im just love my cock.
I was a chronic masturbator in my 20's (as most people are). I'd always wanted to suck my own cock, tried and failed. One day something clicked in my head and I told myself I'm going to do it no matter what.
That started a journey of stretching whenever I could lock myself in my room, pushing my head down, pulling my legs back and holding for minutes at a time. There were horny moments when I over did things, but they were just obstacles to overcome. Like when I had muscle cramps in my back, I would lie on my back and push into them with a deodorant can. It hurt like hell but released the tension, slowly but surely it increased my flexibility with yoga. I also took joint capsules high in glucosamine which helped.
Sometimes I got so stiff I took 4 months off to rest but found myself even more flexible when I started over.
After years of the same I was looking for something new. I did a lot of stomach crunches which loosen the muscles around the abdomen and lower back then started sniffing poppers which helped a lot!
Whilst they made me super flexible I was contorting my body and holding key positions and stressing my limbs beyond normal because once stretched it gets easier.
I yearn for getting deeper everyday and constantly finding new ways to boost flexibility. I won't be happy until I get in the 'Zero-G' Zero-Gap position - a phase I coined myself. The whole shaft should be down my throat with the lips at the ball sack. Only then will I have reached my goal.
You can be straight or gay if you enjoy sucking your cock its because you can !
If there are any dudes out there who want to join me in the same room hit me up. :twisted:

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